3rd video MH17 Inquiry about BUK video

The third video of MH17 Inquiry was released at July 20. The programme states the BBC did not use a video offered by a Russian private detective in the BBC docu ‘Conspiracy files: who shot down MH17

I asked the producer of the BBC programme, Mike Rudin, for comment which is shown below.

The video makes a series of bizarre and false claims. The facts are simple. We approached a number of people when we were making our BBC documentary. We were grateful that Sergei Sokolov was willing to talk to us. He was particularly keen to talk about his theory that two bombs had been planted on board MH17 and caused it to crash. My colleague, Guy Pugh, had two meetings with Mr Sokolov. Later I interviewed Mr Sokolov in a recorded TV interview that lasted less than two hours, and which included translations between Russian and English.

In that interview we talked about Mr Sokolov’s primary theory about bombs being planted on board the Boeing. We also talked about his allegation that a supposed “intercept” revealed an elaborate conspiracy to bring down MH17, and we asked Mr Sokolov about the theory that a Ukrainian Buk had brought down a Buk. Mr Sokolov’s comments in that interview are very clear. He describes how his people in Ukraine made a thorough search of the crash site:

“We were completely sure that it was not a missile because in the whole territory – and this is not just a supposition but a 100% conviction –  we did not find a single physical piece of evidence to confirm the version of events involving  either a missile or a plane. As far as cannon fire is concerned, specialists immediately told us that it would not have been possible. Why? Because at those speeds a fighter could not damage a big Boeing plane in this way, it’s just technically not possible. So we rejected this theory out of hand.”

He then described how they made detailed expert analysis:

“When we received the results of the expert analysis, they showed just one thing: that there was an explosion on board the plane… Once we had received all the pieces of evidence and put them altogether, we were 100% convinced that MH17 was blown up internally. There were 2 explosive devices located on board the plane and this is confirmed by all the material evidence which we received.”

Sergei Sokolov is perfectly entitled to change his mind. But when we interviewed him, his views were very clear and we accurately reflected them in our documentary.

Inside the BUK video

The video showing a BUK crew in action was offered on an auction website called Joker.buzz. The video was part of a set of ‘evidence’.  Another part of the evidence is a recording of communication over radio between a fighter pilot and a ground controller.  I blogged about that here.

The video is supposed to show the BUK that shot down MH17. The video has english subtitles.

To me this all sounds very much like a complete fraud. Who would someone tape inside a BUK which is about to shot down a civil aircraft? All the other evidence offered by Joker.buzz has a smell of being staged about it.

This comment on the blog is interesting

Crew inside Buk TELAR wears soft helmets for a reason: when electrical generator (powering the radar) is running, it’s very noisy inside, impossible to talk. Such helmet (called шлемофон in Russian) contains headphones and a special differential microphone or a throat microphone (laryngophone). In the video the sound is obviously staged, studio-recorded.

 

 

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9 Comments on 3rd video MH17 Inquiry about BUK video

  1. sotilaspassi // July 21, 2016 at 6:45 am // Reply

    I find the video hilarious. (Sorry, if someone meant it to be serious material.)

  2. The fact this series of clear bullcrap continues is surprising,The makers are known to Russian Government and one would have thought if they themselves where not involved or gave their blessing they would have put a stop to this painfull and counter productive freak show.

    • Daniel Been // July 21, 2016 at 10:03 am // Reply

      Agreed but perhaps imagine the very tiny exposure or attention most of the freak shows obtain, in the much larger context of the whole WWW, all radio and TV shows worldwide, including all the tabloid stories. If the Russian MoD (or anyone else of note) would think, for example, that Bellingcat is blowing smoke, they should focus on publishing evidence for that, simply because Bellingcat is quoted and published by major newspapers and some government officials.

      Does this range of videos have any traction beyond a small Youtube crowd and a few blogs? It doesn’t seem to be but I haven’t checked either.

  3. Crew inside Buk TELAR wears soft helmets for a reason: when electrical generator (powering the radar) is running, it’s very noisy inside, impossible to talk. Such helmet (called шлемофон in Russian) contains headphones and a special differential microphone or a throat microphone (laryngophone). In the video the sound is obviously staged, studio-recorded.

    • No, you do not need to wear helmets to talk. Here is real video from another air defense missile system “9K33 Osa”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVFtCMXbAKY

      • yes, but that is a 9K33 not a BUK. It could be the BUK makes much more noise.
        It is an interesting statement by Lena. I believe there are other issues. Hope someone on mh17.webtalk.ru has a clue

        • All webtalk guys (and girls :-)) think what that video is fake:
          – strange and calm speech of persons (pointless commands and wrong sequence);
          – strange data (barely similar to mh17 path);
          – strange instrument panel (something did not work – radar or special panel for real launch) – I read about this issue a few weeks ago on webtalk, but can’t find now;
          – video record on combat duty.

        • Real video from Buk M1, guys talking and working (education process) without any helmets:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWYrrMhK1tM

          • sotilaspassi // July 26, 2016 at 9:58 am //

            The gas turbine sound is pretty loud. But I imagine the BUK launch generates so loud bang that without some ear protection crew might become deaf for a while.

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